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Building an AI startup is one thing. Raising one of the largest seed rounds of the year before launching a product is something else entirely.

In this episode of Build Mode, host and Startup Battlefield lead Isabelle Johannesen sits down with Andrew Dai, founder and CEO of Elorian and former Google DeepMind researcher, to unpack how his company raised a $55 million seed round at a $300 million valuation before generating revenue or releasing a product.

Andrew shares what investors saw in Elorian's vision for visual AI, how he approached fundraising after leaving Google DeepMind, and why choosing the right investors mattered more than maximizing valuation. He also offers practical advice for founders building in AI, explains why today's fundraising environment rewards clear storytelling over technical jargon, and shares what surprised him most as a first-time founder.

They get into:

• How Elorian raised a $55 million seed round before launching a product

• Why visual AI is one of the next major frontiers in artificial intelligence

• What investors look for when backing frontier AI startups

• Why the highest valuation isn't always the best fundraising outcome

• How to pitch highly technical products to non-technical investors

• What founders should look for when choosing venture capital partners

• How to hire top AI talent away from Big Tech

• Why moving quickly matters more than ever in today's AI race

• How founders can build defensible AI companies as technology evolves

• Andrew's advice for first-time founders raising venture capital

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Chapters:

00:00 Meet Andrew Dai: From DeepMind to Building Elorian 01:48 Why Visual AI Is the Next Frontier 04:50 Raising a $55M Seed With No Revenue 08:46 Landing Nvidia, Jeff Dean, and Top AI Investors 12:17 Managing the Pressure of a $300M Valuation 14:40 How AI Founders Should Pitch Investors 20:47 Hiring, Scaling, and Building a Frontier AI Company 27:00 Turning Down Bigger Offers & Advice for Future Founders

Hosted by Isabelle Johannessen. Produced and edited by Maggie Nye. Audience development led by Morgan Little. Special thanks to the Foundry and Cheddar video teams.

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1203. In this bonus discussion with Dr. Charles Kemp, we look at why the Chinese writing system has actually become visually more complex over thousands of years. Dr. Kemp explains how his team used "perimetric complexity" to measure characters and why the need for distinctiveness in a growing vocabulary overrides the natural drive for simplicity. This episode ran for Grammarpaloozians in January 2026. To get more bonus content, visit Patreon.com/GrammarGirl.

Find Dr. Kemp at https://charleskemp.com/.

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How has testing changed in the era of AI? Carl and Richard talk to Debbie O'Brien in her new role at Zephyr about using LLMs to help build and validate tests - and much more. Debbie talks about joining Zephyr and using testing tools like Playwright to validate application workflows and generate documentation. This leads to a discussion about documentation being more important than ever, since LLMs will actually read it! Maintaining quality is a challenge with LLM-generated code and tests, so there's always a role for a critical eye in the process.



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