About Preston

Preston Zeller sits at an unusual intersection: faith-tech founder, growth executive, documentary filmmaker, and abstract artist. As founder of Psalmlog, he’s building an AI-powered biblical guidance app that helps believers access relevant Scripture for any life situation—addressing the universal Christian challenge of knowing God’s Word has answers but not knowing where to look.

His approach is informed by proprietary research with 200+ Christians and 15 years scaling companies from $25M to $300M ARR. As Chief Growth Officer at BatchService, he oversaw the GTM teams, leading to two successful exits. He previously led digital marketing and growth at A Cloud Guru (acquired by Pluralsight for $2B) and ZoomInfo (IPO’d).

Preston brings equal depth to creative work. His documentary The Art of Grieving (2022) follows his year-long project of painting daily after his 35-year-old brother Colin died suddenly from a fentanyl overdose. The film explores grief through personal narrative, art therapy, and cultural history. It’s available on Amazon Prime, Apple TV, and Tubi, and has won Best Documentary at the LA Film Awards, Bridge Film Fest, and Love Wins International Film Festival.

Preston is based in Phoenix with his wife and children.

Today We Talked about

• Faith and Tech
• AI and Faith
• Prompt engineering on models
• RAG – retrieval, augmented, generation
• Psalmlog
• Documentary
• 365 days of art
• grief

Connect with Preston

• LinkedIn
• Website
• Psalmlog

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Show Notes

"But I was looking for something that I could give to some of my team members as prize for a hackathon that they completed and I basically I didn't want to didn't want to force them down that route of having to solder their own stuff. So I found um a little board with a a display on it um and various other capabilities um and then and realised that I could put the nano framework on it."— Andy Clark

Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem.

Today, we're joined by Andy Clark to talk about .NET Nanoframework, how he came to find out about it (pro tip: there's a wonderful circular moment in the episode, see if you can spot it), and why he chose to look into embedded systems in the first place.

"IAnd I think it's the the same kind of applies to software which is if you're doing the same things over and over again you almost kind of blinker yourself into working in particular ways."— Andy Clark

Along the way, we talked about the importance of both constraints on software design, and in looking around at what other systems and frameworks do and use. We also took a walk down memory lane for me, as what we were talking about reminded me of my college days.

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Full Show Notes

The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-8/iot-and-net-nanoframwork-andy-clark-on-building-beyond-the-limit/

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